Comments on: A World Without Bob Dylan http://copyrightcommerceandculture.com/2010/01/31/a-world-without-bob-dylan/#utm_source=feed&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=feed E59.1405, The Media, Culture, and Communications Department at the Steinhardt School of Education at NYU Fri, 18 May 2012 19:36:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: McQuaid http://copyrightcommerceandculture.com/2010/01/31/a-world-without-bob-dylan/comment-page-1/#comment-30394 McQuaid Sun, 15 Apr 2012 17:55:28 +0000 http://copyrightcommerceandculture.com/2010/01/31/a-world-without-bob-dylan/#comment-30394 this is NOT the 'folk process'. The folk process builds. Dylan stole. Pure and simple. Songs he found and recorded, he put his copyright on them. What two examples : the Ballad of Jim Jones and another, Arthur McBride. Both stolen. Borrowing would be to record them and tell us where you found them. Theft is to record them, put your copyright on them, and defend that copyright against anyone doing what you just did. He did EXACTLY the same thing with his paintings. He does not understand the folk tradition: he is a thief and a fraud who also wrote some great music. What sort of a creep would steal a song from the public and sell it back to a bank to use in an advert? this is NOT the ‘folk process’. The folk process builds. Dylan stole. Pure and simple. Songs he found and recorded, he put his copyright on them. What two examples : the Ballad of Jim Jones and another, Arthur McBride. Both stolen. Borrowing would be to record them and tell us where you found them. Theft is to record them, put your copyright on them, and defend that copyright against anyone doing what you just did. He did EXACTLY the same thing with his paintings. He does not understand the folk tradition: he is a thief and a fraud who also wrote some great music. What sort of a creep would steal a song from the public and sell it back to a bank to use in an advert?

]]> By: Alena http://copyrightcommerceandculture.com/2010/01/31/a-world-without-bob-dylan/comment-page-1/#comment-207 Alena Tue, 02 Feb 2010 03:50:55 +0000 http://copyrightcommerceandculture.com/2010/01/31/a-world-without-bob-dylan/#comment-207 It's funny, after I posted this I was thinking about where he gets his material today since so much of his earlier work is based on the work of other artists. The whole problem seems to be wrapped up in one sentence in this article, "The songwriter takes a few words, twists them, changes their context, and produces an entirely new work of art", and whether this is right or wrong. I, for one, still love the man. It’s funny, after I posted this I was thinking about where he gets his material today since so much of his earlier work is based on the work of other artists. The whole problem seems to be wrapped up in one sentence in this article, “The songwriter takes a few words, twists them, changes their context, and produces an entirely new work of art”, and whether this is right or wrong. I, for one, still love the man.

]]> By: Evan http://copyrightcommerceandculture.com/2010/01/31/a-world-without-bob-dylan/comment-page-1/#comment-203 Evan Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:33:30 +0000 http://copyrightcommerceandculture.com/2010/01/31/a-world-without-bob-dylan/#comment-203 The folk tradition seems like a potential example of a nearly complete mismatch between the actual production relations among a group of artists and their fans and the imposed relations of the copyright system. It's worth asking whether the exclusivities of copyright are getting us more or better folk music. And while Dylan's early works may have more directly involved the copying that's common to the folk tradition, he hasn't stopped copying entirely in his old age :) His 2001 album "Love and Theft" seems to have included a number of passages from a Japanese novel without attribution or license: http://www.csudh.edu/dearhabermas/plagiarbk010.htm The folk tradition seems like a potential example of a nearly complete mismatch between the actual production relations among a group of artists and their fans and the imposed relations of the copyright system. It’s worth asking whether the exclusivities of copyright are getting us more or better folk music.

And while Dylan’s early works may have more directly involved the copying that’s common to the folk tradition, he hasn’t stopped copying entirely in his old age :) His 2001 album “Love and Theft” seems to have included a number of passages from a Japanese novel without attribution or license: http://www.csudh.edu/dearhabermas/plagiarbk010.htm

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